HBO’s Season 2 The last of us Wrapped on Sunday night, and Ars Kyle Orland (who played the game) and Andrew Kuningham (which is not) Have returned to talk about the final as they have talked about every other event in this season. Although these Recaps do not come to the Plot Point of the event, but clearly exist The heavy -spoiler It is inside, so if you want to go fresh, see the first event.
Kiyil: Back from last week’s Joel Flashback, it took me a second to remember what is happening in “current” The last of us When we enter the end of Season 2. How easy it was to hurt Eli’s astonished enemy, though the result was only two words that indicate Abbey’s position: “Wheel” and “Wheel”.
I don’t think Eli’s turn is not a twist toward the “Dark Side”. But I think Eli’s solidarity, the version of revenge, is less interesting than the character we love in Season 1. We joined the teenage family this season, and we are leaving it later. Breaking bad.
Andrew: To compare it Breaking bad This means a gradual, proportional change, where my problem has been the most anti -this thing in the season so far. Here’s the motivations of everyone here and to some extent, with whom do we know these characters? Eli is quick and fast. Giving is Lovestruck; Likely, loyal and selfless.
It is just that the first season’s story for the second season (Eli’s conceptual concept) goes to the story of the first season (an unexpected pair after the expansion of the later America, which is driven by a treatment promise)! And I say this as someone who has been a bit hot in the season as a whole. He killed the most interesting character and, with that, the most interesting dynamic of the story. Even after that, everything that happened was always a small thing, and I am sure you can confirm it as a game player who has already experienced a version of it all.
The show has rotated its wheel a bit in Seattle, even seven episodes to fill.
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Kiyil: Yes, I worked on another game for the same reasons. But I also feel that with a few moments of this show, the show is more attractive. Just as giving is known about the pregnancy of the giving, and then it declares that he cannot die “because he is going to become a father. It felt like AI trained on TV Trump’s website writing some of these scenes …
Andrew: Listen, usually I blame AI, but for this, the accusation of AI is that as long as there is a medium, the tallest TV story does not exist. Everyone is only performing the most predicted version of their respective archery. It is an expensive show in which a talented cast and zombie apocalypse is an interesting rough on ideology, so it is worth seeing it in a baseline. But I think it is lost with an unconscious definition.
Kiyil: Yes I mean not literally AI. I meant that human authors burned as sick.
Andrew: I am trying to think about things to prevent it from just being lying down, but unfortunately there are many complaints that I have received about the incident. I liked the abandoned ferrous wheel of Eli’s night’s so -called so -called Sujurin. I feel like the dispute between the WLF types and the cultures, a little more interesting TV shows, about the dispute between the Cultures. But as far as Eli is still concerned, these factions are mostly to chase the other group at the last minute, which rescues Eli’s bacon again.
Kiyil: And setting up controversial philosophical discussions. As Jess Jesse made a very reasonable decision not to make a waste attempt to save the clutch when they were far more than the number of WLF members. Then, later, Eli turned around Jike because the boy “was not a member of your community.” No … I believe that at least 6 to 2 problems have to be done with it. But Eli needs to divert the conversation that Joel represents “my community … beaten”. This is not okay …
The struggle for solidarity for this season’s revenge has been less forced by an unexpected friend of the first season.
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Andrew: Yes I felt that moment was disappointing because Eli is here in a direct violation of his community’s decision! And it Is His community, as a group of people who have searched it and supplied it for years, whether they want to recognize it or not. She only uses the idea of ”community” with Joel as electoral, as a cadjal, so she can do what she already wants to do.
By allowing it to give the last word on it, the show has greatly supported to read about its situation, and it is a kind of watchman justice that TV audiences have been shown sympathy, but the man gets a flat for me.
Kiyil: I was also worried about the destructive story line of Eli’s short ship, which led to a newborn by angry clutters. Then the problem of Davis ex -Makina in the “The Village” saves only seconds from death, which requires cultures to immediately stop and flee its execution. And even then she just hops in a boat and goes to the story a little completely irrelevant.
I think they are probably setting things up next season to provide more contexts for this scene, but in the context of this event, when it stands, it was just an amazing way to use 10 minutes or more.
Andrew: Yes, I am assuming that all the time in setting up these clutteists is somehow, in the end, somehow, somehow, but it has not yet happened.
The second major emotional moment of this event comes when Illinois catch with two members of the staff (I imagine that the Heels Angeles -style leather jacket, which is imposed on the back with the Abbie staff), and kills the two of them, including a heavy child with her baby. Here is a lesson, about the ultimate virtue of revenge, about parents’ sins, about how far you have to maintain the cycle of violence. We will see if Eli finally absorbs any of it.
In the underground violence scene and the two reactions here, Eli seems to be constantly surprised that anyone other than Abbey in search of revenge may suffer any harm in any kind of suicide.
Kiyil: Yes, it’s a bit of a game, but after both Abe’s companions have already died, they have found a non -birth child. The whole “cut off my baby before I died” was apparently prepared so that it could be more emotionally stained for Eli. But as you said, it really doesn’t need to spend any time at any time at any time, as we are moving towards the next plot point.
I understand how and why we don’t get the season for 23 episodes of TV shows, but it seems that some of their 17 -sided stories they have introduced (and a lot of this season) could spend some more time to breathe.
Andrew: I was surprised. That it was ours The end of the seasonBecause it feels like such an interim plowing event, and because we are just I seven episodes. I know we are increasing one game here in two season, but the first season of the nine episode was already short, and then less. Please, can we only be willing to return to 13 episodes seasons?
Anyway, if your original complaint about the Seattle section of the show is “spinning too much wheels”, the big, dramatic cliffer of this incident is bad news for you. Eli has spent every day in Seattle Migora’s mask-Skyo “one day, day two, etc.” subtitles, and now we know what is the reason. The beginning of the next season will show us the events of these three days – but from the Abbey’s point of view!
I think I was the reason for this at the beginning of the season for my monkey’s paw, saying “what if Abbie was more fully made opponent”. But I can’t say that he has placed me on the edge of his seat about Season 3, at the end of an event, a teaser slip of a teaser that I didn’t know about the season after the reality.
Abe oversees his empire.
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Kiyil: Yes, this structure also closes the second game, which turns into Abbie’s backpack by half a way (though there is no “season break” in the middle). I noticed that the dramatic disclosure of the Abbey community to be kept at the football stadium was one of the most memorable moments of the game and was a rare thing.
Earlier, though, we get an inevitable and deadly confrontation between Eli/Jesse/Tommy and Abe. After watching it on the show, I had to go back to see how it runs in the game because something felt in the translation. Certainly, the TV show production added Eli’s “No No Number” and The sound of a gun bullet Before the dramatic deduction is black and transfer to Abi’s first POV.
As usual, it feels as if the show needs to crank at every turn to ensure that people tune up next week (or next season).
Andrew: Let’s go back to this division as a show voucher and when we wrap up, return you as a game player as a game player.
I find myself with more grips here than praise here at the end of the season. There are still many things that I like-as I said, the imaginary universe is compelled to keep it worth seeing, and for all my complaints about Eli’s role, Bella Ramsey is doing the best thing as an actor, which he can do with an unprecedented, unprecedented decision.
But my impression is that my biggest problem with this season, from the murder of Jaeel to the unilateral revenge arc, is the flow of decisions of all stories that have been made during the years ago. The last part of us 2. Generally, the complaint is that the show or the film’s creators somehow are inadequate loyal to the source content and destroying the story by losing something in the process. But it feels like the shows of the show are mostly inherited from the game – in other words, the show is being done Lot Loyalty to the source content under influence. Is this a fair diagnosis, or do I miss something?
Kiyil: I would say that the structural problems of the show are mostly derived from the decision to transfer the “Buddy Adventure” of the game to “revenge story” because we have discussed the advertisement of the advertisement. But many of this season’s delicious issues-such as packing, flow, character growth, etc., are practically worse due to decisions to add or replace things for shows.
After Season 1, I hoped that some of the mild contact changes could help to get rid of the game that I didn’t enjoy much. Instead, I think they somehow damaged it.
Andrew: Oops!
Well, always the next season. All our complaints may be addressed to a great extent and then something. The only thing we can definitely say is: We haven’t seen the last The last of us.
Kiyil: Finally, real The last of us Was all the people we killed on the way?